This message is for Mr. Nice Guy. If you can’t understand why women would prefer being treated like crap and repeatedly raked over the coals then go out with you, this is for you babe.
To start, being “nice” is never how you should describe or sell yourself. Being the nice guy is synonymous with being the boring, safe, dull, average, last-ditch choice. You may be the nice guy, but you should never try to peg yourself as one or you won’t be doing much pegging in the near future.
Being Mr. Nice guy is death by dick-i-cide. Why? Because being nice is not sexy. Being nice won’t buy us things. And being nice is not exciting. Also, there is something about being nice that is just not very manly. Even though it’s the 21st century, at heart, me want Tarzan. Ugh Ugh.
The nice guys don’t get chosen (often) because women don’t prioritize niceness. Even though we might “say” we want a good guy, and a gentlemen, and to be treated well. There is a difference.
A nice guy usually has nothing better going for him then to say he’s nice. So, we’ll pick the assholes instead because at least the asshole is attractive, fun, different, playful, whatever. Also, if you haven’t figured this one out, women are attracted to drama. . .it gives us something to talk about when we are sitting around in panties at a sleepover. But seriously, women are more enticed by a guy that stirs some emotions (good or bad) than the nice guy who stirs nothing.
In dating, women look for a spark or some chemistry above or beyond physical looks (unless she’s the occasional chick just looking for some hooky nooky – and they are a rare breed). We want good people who excite us with humor, charm, sex appeal, brains, intrigue, whatever. Just know that we don’t want nice.
So, my dear Mr. Nice guys of the world, unless you want to be forever the friend and never the fuck partner, stop whining about how you always finish last. Chug some Gatorade, lace up them Nikes and get back into the race. The first prize: your pick of the blondes, red heads or brunettes. And what’s your winning strategy? I don’t believe that the best attributes you have to to offer is the nice thing. Sell your other attributes.
How sad. Women want assholes and blow off nice men, then scrach their heads and wonder why they get hurt by said men and whine to the nice guys. I guess I have no choice BUT to be the ULTIMATE asshole to get women... NO FUCK THAT! IF BITCHES WANT ASSHOLES THEN THEY ARE JUST THAT - BITCHES! SO FUCK YOU AND THIS ARTICLE TOO!
Posted by: RabidCheeseMonkey at September 10, 2005 06:32 PMWhat??? Agree slightly with other comment but maybe not as sweary....
I am a nice guy, im not unattractive or anything but im just nice- this niceness comes from my morals- surely my morals are better than lying to a girl about who i am?
I have been single for year and half as most girls i like do go for the older guys, the ones in a band who drink and smoke- the ones without a future basically- mr.asshole. Now, why would you want that???
I may be a 'nice guy' but i still have fun, i can have a laugh and be spontaneous- and i dont have to be an asshole to do it!
Allow me to clarify, being nice is not the problem. Being nice is a good thing that will result in longer and better relationships in the long term. But, in the short term you need a date. I'm saying if you want to get that date, don't put your nice foot forward. Show your other traits . . .please tell me you have other traits. . .and you'll break your dry spell. Good luck sugar.
Posted by: Keyla A. (ScoreHer Squad) at September 19, 2005 10:45 PMSo is it better to be a nice guy that can act like a dick on the first few dates, or a dick that can act like a nice guy after the first few?
The answer's obvious, but why are (some) girls too dumb to realize it?
Posted by: Patrick at September 25, 2005 08:52 PMSince it's universally accepted that girls dig assholes, we can now (A) start being, or continue to be assholes and (B) stop feeling sorry for women when they complain about guys being assholes.
Aaah. That feels good, doesn't it?
Posted by: Afroblanca at September 26, 2005 01:14 PMFor decades I watched and wondered why women always seemed to be attracted to and stayed with the men who treated them like crap. Now I know why: these women have low self-esteem, and don't think they deserve better. They'd reject a real gentleman who'd treat them wit respect and dignity to get with the guy who lies, cheats, and treats them the way they think they deserve.
With respect, Keyla, I disagree. I don't think women are attracted to drama. I think women are attracted to an exciting, masculine guy who lets her be herself. I'm not rich but I know how to reat a woman. I open doors, hold chairs, am "nice", and get plenty of dates. I don't have drug/alcohol problems or mental issues around females either. So being nice works for me.
A woman who prefers a jerk to me can have him. From where I stand, there are far more available women than men. We can pick pretty much who we want.
For decades I watched and wondered why women always seemed to be attracted to and stayed with the men who treated them like crap. Now I know why: these women have low self-esteem, and don't think they deserve better. They'd reject a real gentleman who'd treat them wit respect and dignity to get with the guy who lies, cheats, and treats them the way they think they deserve.
With respect, Keyla, I disagree. I don't think women are attracted to drama. I think women are attracted to an exciting, masculine guy who lets her be herself. I'm not rich but I know how to read a woman. I open doors, hold chairs, am "nice", and get plenty of dates. I don't have drug/alcohol problems or mental issues around females either. So being nice works for me.
A woman who prefers a jerk to me can have him. From where I stand, there are far more available women than men. We can pick pretty much who we want.
What I don't see the article or responses mentioning is age. Every woman I know has gone through her "bad boy" phase. When they grow out of it, they want the nice guy for a long term relationship. When that is varies with the woman, just like men and their phases of wanting sluts, mother figures, etc.
Posted by: Bill at October 10, 2005 11:08 PMThere is absolutely nothing new about your article. Blah, blah, blah, us women likes asshole and youse nice guys are losers.
Great, enjoy your eating disorders then, cause us guys like you skinny.
Posted by: anon at October 24, 2005 11:45 PMTo make a long story short...
If you are looking for a date at a "meat market", then that is exactly what you get. The better looking piece catches the eye first, but when the chooser takes the time to go to the better shop, then they will find the prime cuts. Nice guys, here is my advice... keep being nice. When they girls finally get their heads out of their collectives asses, they will come looking for you. Then you can pick the one you want and REJECT the gold diggers.
You all have it wrong. Most women are attracted to jerks. It's not the fact that they are jerks that makes these guys attractive though. The truth is, most jerks are quite charismatic. They are independent and they tend to be passionate about their lives. These are actually good traits, and they are very attractive traits to women who have been programmed at a genetic level to seek out men who will be good protectors and providers. If you want to be a nice guy and still be attractive to women, you just need to provoke those feelings in women that make them feel that you are something different. Make them feel as though you are a person who is not afraid of them. Show some backbone. Don't be afraid to tease them. Don't be afraid to tell her no, in fact, tell her no as often as you can.
The biggest mistake "nice guys" make is that they put women on pedestals and kiss their asses while their tongues hang out. They hold deep seated beliefs that the woman they are approaching needs to be showered with gifts and compliments and while doing this they soon realize that the woman they have just spent half their paycheck on is leaving with the tattooed bald guy from across the room.
I could rant on this forever, but the simple fact is, women want men, not weenies that beg them for attention. If you want to be attractive to the most attractive women, get a personality and don't approach them as if they are the prize to be won. Act as if you are the prize to be won. It doesn't matter how ugly, short, skinny or pale you are, if you act this way, nice guy or jerk, you will end up having much more success.
Posted by: Timm at November 3, 2005 05:30 PMTim, you're my hero
Posted by: Giardello at November 14, 2005 02:24 PMAs to women going through a "bad boy" phase..........We nice guys really don't want you after you've been "all fucked out" by the jerks of the world. That is why I have ceased to be a nice guy for the last two years. I get laid a lot more now, then toss the bitches. I have women calling ME for dates now. My advice: find 'em fuck 'em and let 'em whine about it after you've busted your nut on thir chins.
Posted by: Ravyn at February 12, 2006 04:55 AMOh please you all are just whiney pansys.
I hardly agree with this article it is missing the point.
A)There is no such thing as the nice guy, nice men are really calculating actors who pretend to be chivalrous in hopes of obtaining certain things. The end result they don't get what they want and end up being bigger asswholes than the asswholes they bitch about women choosing over them. Plus to make matters worse most serial killers and sociopaths have fallen under the nice guy catagory.
b) most men want a bitch. They dont want the "nice girl". Stop bitching about being single if your standards are too high for what you actually are
The end!!
The way I see it is this:
There are two kind of nice guys. Those of choice and those of nature. Those who choose do so more out of inexperience than anything else, and to them the 'niceness' is the only technique they know. Those who are nice by nature are a completely different animal, as it is integral to their personality.
The 'inexperienced' nice guys are the beggar variety that think something along the lines of "Surely a woman would want to be with me if I'm really really 'nice', right?" They are still there only for their own amusement, and use this tactic mostly because they don't know any better. They are, in fact, little more than the larval form of assholes. They have no problem continuing along their merry way so long as they believe that, one day, it will pay off. When they realize another way is more effective, and actually give it a try, they then gain some experience on the matter and usually molt into a full-fledged jerk. These generally don't care much about the personality of the woman, as that is not what interests them anyway.
Lisa, above, apparently has quite a bit of experience with this type... and apparently none of the other, sad to say.
Occasionally this form will, over time, absorb some of the nice traits into its personality and grow into another kind without actually molting into a jerk. In this case, they can actually grow into the second kind of 'nice' guy... those who are naturally that way.
Those who are nice 'by nature' are just that, and have the full range of character and personality traits that other men. The generally tend to be more respectful and nice as a matter of course, not as a chosen method to achieve their goals. Usually this kind is quite rare, although they seem to appear naturally far more than as a resulted of a 'mutated chosen nice guy'. In this instance, the 'nice' trait is an advantage, because it's not the sole redeeming trait, just another good one on the pile that happens to 'flavor' the rest quite nicely... even more so due to its rarity.
Mojo apparently qualifies as one of these. Furthermore, he has a similar philosophy to my own: Women who desire jerks to the point of alienating everyone else interest me not at all. There's no reason to bother, as that very personality trait reflects others--all of which will result in an unsatisfying relationship. The crowd thus thins itself and makes it easier on the rest of us through no effort of our own. Convenient!
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