So what is your point Girl? Because from that jumbled mess of words posted as a counter-argument, the only discernable point I could gather is that girls use sex for gain(ummm...a.k.a. prostitution, and I don't think many women are about to agree with you on that).

The rest of that convoluted mess of an argument seemed to imply that women cry to get what they want because men are always wrong for not giving a girl just that; OR that if we back down because of tears shed, our original reasoning must have been wrong.

Now, following that logical path would imply that a man has no right to ever tell a girl 'no'...hhhmmm. Is that something you'd like to argue? Do you really think that's right? Are all women omnipotent beings with vast knowledge over all things? I'm going to go out on a limb here and say 'no'.

The truth is, is that men do often back down when up against a face full of tears, but its not because we're wrong, rather, its because we love that very face that's crying and more times than not, will do what's within our power to keep it happy.

That means even backing down when we're right or have a very justifiable argument in the first place.

Now, do I expect crying-for-gain to stop with the onset of the 'equal rights' age? No, of coarse not. But I do expect women to show a little more sense/reason when faced with a problem that probably could be solved with tears.

Women have to realize that letting emotions control a psyche so much is a receipt for disaster. The more emotions that control a person, the less room there is for sensibility; just ask religious fundamentalist terrorists; they're full of emotions about their cause (of coarse that's not to compare women with terrorists :)

But, look at it this way, it obviously isn't that big of a deal if you back down because of a few tears.

Yeah, backing down because someone is trying to emotionally blackmail you, that's not a big deal at all.

Thanks, Erik!

I'm sensitive to real tears, but it's ridiculously easy to tell fake tears. Their face doesn't get truly red and you can catch them checking out your reaction out of the corner of their eye. At that point, I have all the power and can do what I want.

Resisting crocodile tears is about as hard as resisting getting hit by a pizza truck on a deserted street. No problem.

Once a girl sees that crocodile tears won't work on me, she'll never use that tactic again.

If a guy starts to cry because of something small and petty, I think any woman would just tell him to grow up. Furthermore, they would be straight off to their friends to let them know how much of a baby said man is (friends advice would be the usual; get rid and FAST!). However, if a guy walked away from his crying girlfriend, went to see his mates and discussed binning her over a beer he becomes an uncaring pig. Fact of it is, men can tolerate more crap from a woman than a woman can from a man. It also seems to be socially unacceptable to tell it like it is and any attempt to do so is followed by a tirade from the opposing sex. The Man V's Woman thing will go on and on but the author of the counterpoint is trying to make excuses for what is nothing more than childish primadonna posturing. Woman who turn it on to get what they want have probably done it all their lives and since it worked as a child why stop now?? Have a serious word with any gal who can't talk without applying the sprinklers and i bet they are unable to hold an adult conversation. Send them back to the nursery till they grow up enough to be in an adult relationaship

Apologies for the odd poor spelling in previous post.....think I shall turn on the waterworks in a vain bid to have them corrected for me by a nice lady from scoreher.com.............

........is it working yet?

Didn't think so..........