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Point: Guys Should Make The First Move. |
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CounterPoint: Lazy Bitch. |
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I am not good at making the first move, but once things get moving I am great at keeping on the pressure.
Posted by: Pat at March 16, 2006 12:16 AMWe don't want you to always make the first move. But yeah, it'd be cool to have a girl take some initiative one time. Really, it makes things even more exciting when we score a date, kiss, or anything else, just because we made the first move. It's like winning the lottery; you can just accept the fact that your chances of winning are slim and not buy a ticket, or you can buy a ticket anyway (knowing that you probably won't win), and then when you do win, it's freakin awesome. Just ask her out; you don't need to go off on some crazy rant about how women can't function without women.
And as for you, Guy, women expect everything from men because we can give them everything. If all men left for a day, besides the obvious things that result from half of the population suddenly being gone, women would open their own doors, squash their own bugs, and unscrew their own caps. But hey, why should they? They don't have to! Right? Right...but that's not a bad thing, you just have to figure out how to use it to your advantage. Every opportunity you get to open a door or unscrew a cap or squash a bug is an opportunity to show off your manliness to a girl, and show her that you respect her and care about her. And even if you don't think it's worth it because you might not get any action for it, just take one for the team so the girl doesn't get pissed off at guys in general.
Plus, women use things like this to find out things about a guy. Any girl I'd be interested in most likely likes it when guys open the door for them, so I can use their reaction to my opening a door (some girls flip out and say 'I can open a door for myself, thanks' and some girls are happy about it) to judge what kind of person they are (in one respect at least).
Posted by: Garrett at April 22, 2006 4:42 PM"What does that say about your jimmy size?"
It says absolutely nothing, I dont ask lasses out to there face, I know for a fact ill get rejected thats probably why I just ask lasses out when ive known them for a bit, when theyve seen me around not some stranger, otherwise they read the cover and mines a bit of a rough book.
Posted by: L89 at April 25, 2006 1:31 PMOh this, point counterpoint makes sense...if, of course, you buy into the whole stereotypical gender shit.
"want men with balls" who "take control"? Holy Jeezus, what kind of frickin' BS is that? I mean, there ARE females out there who are in to the whole guy-takes-control thing, but many of them don't insult a guy's reproductive capabilities just because he doesn't pop the question first. The whole "girl's take" is coming from a sassy, prissy lazy ass who thinks the reason she doesn't get asked out is because she's intimidating. Actually, the reason she doesn't is probably because she's too fuckin' high maintainance...word gets around, you know.
As for the guy's take, good God, no WONDER you're getting stepped all over if all you do is whine about how she "uses and abuses" you. NEWSFLASH, she's probably not the only one, and the Use and Abuse Camp is probably populated by more than "she"s...I'll bet your father, brother, and uncle mess with you too. "Appreciate the wonder that is a man"????? Seriously, wtf? Get over yourself. Last I checked there are over 4.5 billion penises on this planet, what makes yours so damn special???
This whole comparison just pisses me off. A Man is a Man if he has the Balls to Take Rejection and should Take Control of the Situation. A Woman is a Woman if she Controls The Marriage and needs a Man to Squash Bugs and Open Jars.
I realize that there ARE people who fit this strange mold, but guess what? THERE ARE OTHER POSSIBILITIES!!! There are girls who can squash spiders fearlessly! Boys who don't feel the need to be arrogant, controlling megolomaniacs! And omg, sometimes boys open doors for girls not because they're incapable of doing it themselves or because they want to get some later, but because they're BEING NICE AND SHOWING HOW MUCH THEY VALUE AND RESPECT THE GIRL!!! *shocked gasps*
Seriously. How 'bout we say this: if you like someone, ask them out, regardless of whether you're a guy or a girl. If you get rejected, you didn't lose anything you had...execpt maybe a hope. At least then you can move on. If you get lucky, bully for you.
Why do issues like this always come down to gender when gender has NOTHING to do with it???
Posted by: Ruthie at May 11, 2006 9:16 PM"4.5 billion penises"
No, they're aren't; but since when is it the guy who thinks their junk is worth its weight in Gold? Last time I checked, women were the ones thinking their canyon is the second coming.
First off, I'm a girl. And girls like it when guys do stuff for us--it makes us feel special, even if it is just opening the doors. It makes us appreciate you more. We realize how lucky we are to have a guy like you devoting time to us.
I'm tired of women getting all defensive when a guy opens a door for them. GET OVER YOURSELF---HE'S JUST BEING NICE!!!! Moreover, I'm tired of guys who are too lazy to ask a girl out. Whether most girls will admit it, we like tradition and chivalry... its old fashioned but not everything was meant to change. And just because you ask a girl out, doesn't mean you have to spend a ton of money, there are tons of free things to do. We really don't care if you spend five or fifty-- we enjoy YOUR TIME. And if you do ask a girl out who is about the money and later complain about it... So what? You asked her out and you knew she was high maintence and if you didn't then you should have gotten to know her better. There are plenty of girls out there who wouldn't mine spoiling you as well.
Garret, you've got it right! And as for you "Guy", with that attitude you'll never get a girl... at least one with class.
Guys, we know you don't HAVE to take the inititive... but we love it when you do. Be bold, take a risk, and it will pay off :)
First off, Chris, nice "grammer"! they're aren't?? lol No, there isn't. i'm not to good at the whole grammar thing but lets try to use our brains.
This article is just disgusting. Who writes this crap. I know nothing about romance but i could write better crap than this.
When it comes to asking someone else. Neither side should say you ask me out. But sadly life doesn't work that way. Men you have to step up and swing. You may not hit the ball the first time but one will come your way thats just right.
I really shouldn't be saying that because when it comes to asking girls out i have no idea. I personally grabbed my GF shoulders and said "wait... uhhh would you like to go out" yeah i looked stupid. My question to the commenters of this website is whats the best way to ask a girl out. phrase wise.
Posted by: ryan at December 1, 2006 7:27 PM
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